New Order performing at Victoria University. Pic: Charles Jameson

New Order – First NZ Tour

HELEN COLLETT stalks the members of New Order and their greater entourage during their first New Zealand tour in 1982.

New Order performing at Victoria University. Pic: Charles Jameson

Editor’s note: There are those of us who consider Helen Collett one of the few truly great rock writers to have emerged from NZ, and more specifically, the post-punk scene in Wellington. With a wit as sharp as a Japanese usuba knife and attitude to spare, her work and words were sometimes contentious but impossible to ignore. Unfortunately, much of her work is lost to time, and she gave up music writing too early, so Witchdoctor is joyfully digging up and republishing some of the features and reviews she wrote for Gary Steel’s In Touch and TOM magazines, with her permission. This piece appeared in IT mag, Christmas 1982.

 

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STORY 1:

By devious means, I inveigled my way into the flat of Martin Usher and Bernard Albrecht. Rob Gretton wanders past, clad only in glasses, a grin and a pair of red underpants. I drink coffee and pack a couple of shirts for Bernard Albrecht. He seems flustered by the sheer volume of his clothing, and wonders why he bothered bringing so much on tour. But if you donโ€™t talk to people, it must be difficult communicating with shop assistants and the like.
Still, the reticent New Order have had more than their share of sicko/sentimental press coverage. They didnโ€™t want or need to speak to the press here either, they were in New Zealand to play music.
Upon the groupโ€™s arrival in Wellington, Iโ€™d wanted to speak to Gillian, the newest band member. After two days, the idea of a set interview with any of these people was starting to seem both boring and superfluous. Sure, Iโ€™m supposed to be a โ€œreporterโ€, but not a private investigator. I also think a formal interview type situation would have revealed little of relevance pertaining to New Orderโ€™s music.

New Order

So I talk with engineer Martin Usher again. โ€œI got into computers around 1978โ€, he says. โ€œThe people I knew at the time werenโ€™t using equipment of any quality, getting a degree or working in real firms.
โ€œYouโ€™ve got to do that. Itโ€™s a question of getting enough experience to become eligible for corporate status as an engineer. You do that so you can get out and earn vast sums of money! But also, your previous work often involves good techniques for bands.
โ€œBut some bands wonโ€™t be using that stuff until itโ€™s well-established, because usually theyโ€™re a bit behind, technically, whatโ€™s state-of-the-art.
I had two million pounds behind me. To them, that was tea money. A typical-sized contract was 60 million pounds.
โ€œI mean, itโ€™s big league! Another example: one firm I worked for commissioned me to make a prototype tape recorder over 12 weeks. Iโ€™ve got 91,000 out of that.
โ€œThese sums are what you spend in an industrial context. But it would bankrupt a record firm to get in at that sort of level. Factory donโ€™t have enough money to throw away on speculative ventures.
โ€œMy point is, that once youโ€™ve done the work and learned the various techniques, you can use them elsewhere. Like with music, The Factory, etc, which is bloody interesting to me.โ€

The group’s first post-Joy Division album

How did you meet [Factory boss] Tony Wilson? Heโ€™s got a rather weird reputation, Mark Smith saidโ€ฆ
โ€œBut Tony Wilson is the type of person who meets you. You roll up in the car park outside your flat one night, out of your head, and this guy saysโ€ฆ โ€˜Do you know how to make a vocoder?โ€™ I thought he was really nice. A mess! Isnโ€™t everybody?

โ€œGreater Manchesterโ€™s like a club. Everybody knows everybody else.
โ€œIโ€™ve worked with New Order for about 15 months. Bernard comes to my house and says, โ€˜This doesnโ€™t work straight, it doesnโ€™t do what you want it to do.โ€
Bernard: โ€œYeah, fucking hell, Iโ€™ve done this and it donโ€™t work no more! You know?โ€
Martin: โ€œAnd he needs it for tomorrowโ€ฆโ€

New Order

So youโ€™re like a fixer, a mender for the machines, then.
Martin: โ€œI donโ€™t actually fix things, I modify them. I hope, or I donโ€™t believe that things should go wrong.โ€
What part, if any, do you have in writing New Orderโ€™s music?
โ€œNoneโ€, says Martin. โ€œBernard puts the stuff in. Who writes the music anyway? I donโ€™t know who writes the music; it turns up in memories!โ€
No, what I thought you were saying before was that Bernard would turn up with a โ€œfaultyโ€ sequencer, something that wasnโ€™t being used by him in the way originally intended for it. Then youโ€™d show him how it could be used. I wasnโ€™t sure whether that just implied interpretation of ideas or the actual creation of music on Martinโ€™s part.
Bernard: โ€œNo, a sequencerโ€™s just a tool, a machine, right?โ€ [Explain that term more fully please, I say. Bernard shuts up completely. Itโ€™s alright, go on, I say in reassuring tones. Whatโ€™s the matter?]
โ€œI have an aversion to tape recorders, actually.โ€ [Tee hee. Thatโ€™s okay, I have too].
โ€œTurn it off then,โ€ suggests Bernard. [No, I have to become accustomed to the bloody things. Itโ€™s just a tool of the trade thatโ€™s been misused in your context. Get over it, kid!]
โ€œAlright. A sequencer isโ€ฆ what you do is you play a synthesiser into a sequencer. Well, you program a sequencer and after that, you donโ€™t have to play into it any more. The sequencer plays it in, okay?
โ€œSo it plays very fast sort of rhythm things that you couldnโ€™t play anyway, because theyโ€™re so fast. It leaves your hands free to play something else.

New Order

โ€œBut a lot of people only use them in the studio, whereas we use them live. And when you do that, youโ€™ve got to be quick. And theyโ€™ve got to be reliable. A lot of them arenโ€™t though, you know?
โ€œBut if we buy a new sequencer and it wonโ€™t do what we need it to do, we take it to Martin and he susses out how it works. He makes it do what we want it to do, basically. Technically.โ€
Martin: โ€œUsually on a Sunday night.โ€
Bernard: โ€œYeah, it gets a bit boring on a Sunday, doesnโ€™t it. There isnโ€™t much happening.โ€
Martin: โ€œIn fact from lunchtime until about midnight Sunday, we all go into Factory. Thatโ€™s the best time to get the circuit things fixed up.โ€
How are the various types of computer systems being utilized, then?
Martin: โ€œWell, one thing you can do with them is run groups. Another is that you can run robots in factories. But the biggest business is bombs, missiles and other explosives. Itโ€™s where the bulk of work goes. If you see someone advertising certain types of heavy duty computer systems, then invariably theyโ€™re military systems.
โ€œThe main problem in keeping a lot of engineers amused is finding something interesting to do that doesnโ€™t involve going BANG! At some stage in its career. I think in England, the vast majority of work is in military equipment, most engineers employed are involved with it. Thereโ€™s little else they can do. So industrial automation covers a multitude of sins, you seeโ€ฆโ€
Bernard: โ€œExcuse me, do you know how to fold shirts?โ€
The next shirt I notice is red, printed with white lettering, and being worn by a red-headed member of the road crew. Vicious on the eyes. Various band members attempt to explain its history to me, for some reason.

New Order

Bernard: โ€œThis is the story of the shirt. This shirtโ€ฆโ€
Steve, New Orderโ€™s drummer: โ€œI remember the day we first saw that shirt, that bright young little shirt. He was jumping around in it.โ€
The Wearer: โ€œAnd then, disaster. Drink. The final frontierโ€ฆโ€
[Steve: โ€œIt makes slaves of us allโ€ฆโ€] โ€œThen after drink, it was twin-engines. Non-stop, a space shuttle. Disasterโ€ฆโ€
I see why you wanted me to read that shirt.
Steve: โ€œItโ€™s written in the Finnish language. A language we all know very well. We know it well.โ€
Dammit โ€“ if it was in Russian, I could read it too.
Steve: โ€œShow her the back. Itโ€™s in reverse printing. An old Finnish joke. In fact, the only Finnish joke!โ€
Iโ€™ve heard that one. โ€œWhatโ€™s it mean?โ€ I curse them all viciously in Russian and laugh.
End of story. Finito, as Rob Gretton would say.

STORY 2:

While walking through Wellingtonโ€™s Botanical Gardens, Iโ€™m accosted by Rob Gretton, New Orderโ€™s manager. โ€œHey! Come over here!โ€, he yells. โ€œThis is Martin.โ€
Notโ€ฆ Martin Hannett, I ask, falling to my knees.
No, this is Martin Usher and heโ€™s into Industrial Automation. โ€œIโ€™m an engineer. I operate computers,โ€ he says.
Rob: Heโ€™s a boffin. Heโ€™s here to take an analytical approach to our music and uhโ€ฆ criticize everything. Can I have another cigarette?โ€
Martin: I try to rationalize stuff so that itโ€™s much simpler and more versatile. I take some of the guess-work out of playing, so you can just press a button and go off into the dark. The equipmentโ€™s set to work itself.
I also make blow-up models of the band. At the beginning of the set, they just sort of inflate.

New Order

No, I donโ€™t do anything that spectacular. But this is a nice holiday. I get to see a bit of the world. Long way to go to see a New Order gig though, isnโ€™t it?
Rob: Heโ€™s never seen a New Order gig before. [Rilly].
Martin: Iโ€™ve heard all sorts of bits of their music, because of Martin Hannett, who plays all this sort of racket.
Rob: Heโ€™s a good friend of mind. But [this] Martin sorted out all our sequencers.
M: Well, last yearโ€™s model. Youโ€™ve changed, youโ€™ve now gone and bought a new lot! Itโ€™s hell, you just canโ€™t trust anybody.
R: Youโ€™ve got to keep moving ahead, Martinโ€ฆ
M: Itโ€™s hardly what youโ€™d call moving ahead if itโ€™s just the same job.
R: But the search for reliability is one of our biggest problems. We used to have some embarrassing gigs when everything would just get out of sync with everything else.

New Order

But the trouble is whenever Bernard [Albrecht, the singer], gets hold of a piece of equipment, he decides to do something that the manufacturer couldnโ€™t possibly have anticipated. So youโ€™re drowned again. You know, โ€˜oh, ah, um, how do you make it do this?โ€™ So you give Bernard a circuit, he goes off and he makes it. It doesnโ€™t work, so you fiddle around making it work, and he goes off and makes a few more. And gradually, they accumulate, more and more bits of equipment. I think one of the plans now is to try and get hold of some kind of rationalized piece.โ€
[Whatโ€™s that?]
M: Probably just a computer. But nothing of any great complexity or, dare I say it [to Rob] expense?
But no matter what you do there, I suspect the band will all think of something totally different.
[He picks something up from the grass].
M: What strange things youโ€™ve got growing in this part of the world; whatโ€™s this?
[Well, itโ€™s either a very weird joint or a mutant cigar. Light it and see].
M: But as I said, my main business is industrial automation. Which seems appropriate really, when you think of an outfit like Factory.
R: Into automating the process.
M: Thereโ€™s a lot to be said for this type of music, though. It could be fun.
Thereโ€™s no money in it though โ€“ not by industrial standards. Thatโ€™s only possible if youโ€™re very big. I suppose.
R: God, Iโ€™m tired. What did you think of the gig last night? [Monday, Victoria University, Wellington].
[I thought the sound was good, especially for John Cooper-Clarke โ€“ although I suppose that would have been easier! New Order were like a huge vibration, just great].
R: Oh, it was probably a good-type gig, really.
M: Were you pinned against the back wall of the hall?
[No, I was pinned against 1000 people with their mouths open. Possibly thinking of Joy Division, or trying not to. No, thatโ€™s a generalization.]
R: Or thinking of Warsaw. Iโ€™d say itโ€™s very time-warpish in Australia and New Zealand. Itโ€™s like England two years ago.
[Itโ€™s difficult to hear much new music out here though, unless you spend a fortune on imports].
R: Well, weโ€™ve been having a lot of problems with our New Zealand record company. In fact, they havenโ€™t been to see us at all. But I think the promoters have done a pretty good job. Considering we werenโ€™t doing any interviews, or talking to anyone.
Not even phone-in interviews. Itโ€™s very difficult for them to promote us. See, weโ€™re not really into self-promotionโ€ฆโ€
[Understatement of the century. Various band members and associates arrive, sit on the grass, talk and sun themselves. Theyโ€™ve had a day off, which was spent touring the bays of Wellington, shopping and resting.
The tape runs out, the sun goes down and everybody leaves.]

  • New Order performed at Victoria University on 8 December, 1982.

 

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